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Articles by Portland Jones
These articles by Portland Jones have been published in Hoofbeats Magazine and are reproduced here with the kind permission of Sandy Hannan, editor. For more information on Australia's best riding, training and horse care magazine please go to www.hoofbeats.com.au
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Xenophon
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When you read “On Horsemanship” Xenophon’s voice is so clear that it is almost as if you are sitting beside the retired cavalry general while he writes in a sunny spot in his garden. He wrote the book when he was 73 years old and approaching the end of his life but his wits are sharp and his wisdom clear on every page. I picture him pausing in his writing to look over to the stables and his stallions, remembering with gratitude their years of service. Perhaps he wrote this book for his sons and grandsons, to help them during a time in history when a man in battle trusted his horse with his life. Although he lived by the sword his voice is that of a scholar. The way he talks about horses reminds us that while our world is vastly different from his, the horses we work with are still the same.
While none of us will go to war bareback on a stallion as Xenophon did his book is as valuable today as it was nearly 2500 years ago when he wrote it. Some of the details may be archaic but the underlying principles of tact and understanding are as important as they ever were.
Xenophon lived in Ancient Greece; a remarkable man in an era that left the world with many new concepts and ideas including; democracy, philosophy, mathematics and physics. The Greeks were educated, restrained and ethical. They had a great love of beauty and believed in the pursuit of excellence. The gods that they worshipped were strict, unforgiving and required a great deal of attention; the Olympic games were started as a way of honouring (and placating) their chief god Zeus. One of the most important Greek artefacts is the Shrine of Delphi and on it are inscribed two statements that epitomise the Greek philosophy; they are, “Nothing in excess” and “Know thyself”. Its hard to imagine what the Greeks would think of modern ethics, values and the ‘super-size me, bigger is better’ philosophy!
One of the most famous Greeks of that era was Socrates (469 – 399 BC). The two fundamental beliefs that Socrates taught his students were the necessity of doing what they believed was right even in the face of fierce opposition and the need to pursue knowledge relentlessly. Xenophon was a friend, a student and an admirer of Socrates. When Socrates was sentenced to death (by drinking a cup of hemlock) for “neglect of the gods” he refused to allow his many friends to help him escape by saying that he could not “return evil for evil” and that he must respect the processes of the law. Xenophon wrote a book defending Socrates and although he must have missed his friend he wrote, “Excess of grief for the dead is madness; for it is an injury to the living, and the dead know it not.”
“On Horsemanship” was one of about forty essays and short books that Xenophon wrote throughout his life. He wrote on a number of different topics including war and military history. His most famous book is “Anabasis” which tells the true story of one of his many military campaigns. When he was 31 years old he went to war as a mercenary for Cyrus the Younger against his older brother Artaxerxes II. The Greeks won but Cyrus and his general were killed, leaving 10,000 Greek mercenaries in Mesopotamia, far from home and deep in enemy territory. They chose new leaders, of which Xenophon was one, and battled their way to the Black Sea and safety. It has been said of Anabasis that reading it is memorable because, “The feeling of the comfortable, quiet brain of General Xenophon who was never unduly disturbed or despondent and who always know what to do and how to do it.” (Ford Madox Ford 1938). Xenophon was exiled from Athens later in his life for his association with Cyrus but his banishment was revoked when one of his sons Gryllus fought and died for Athens at the battle of Mantinea.
Like others of his era Xenophon rode only stallions as it was believed they were braver than mares. Although the Greeks wore extensive leather armour into battle they did most of their every-day riding dressed only in a short-skirted tunic. Xenophon writes of the importance of training the horse to stand quietly while the rider adjusts his skirts and takes a firm grasp of his spear. The ancient Greeks rode bareback, with the possible addition of a light cloth to sit on, as the saddle was yet to be invented. As Xenophon does not mention wearing armoured underpants it is not at all surprising that he advocated choosing horses with fleshy, well-covered backs!
Xenophon dedicates several pages of his book to the management of a horse’s feet. The Greeks did not have farriers, so daily hoof care would have been extremely important. He writes, “Just as a house would be of little use, however beautiful its upper stories, if the underlying foundations were not what they ought to be, so there is little use to be extracted from a horse…if unsound in his feet, however excellent his other points; since he could not turn a single one of them to good account.” He suggests buying horses with thick-walled feet, writing that a good foot can be determined by the sound it makes as it hits the ground as a strong foot with a well defined frog will, “ring like a cymbal against the solid earth.”
Xenophon is concerned with training the horse for war, cross country riding and parades. His horsemanship is based on the need for obedience as this was of the utmost importance to the soldier. The Greeks rode their horses on a long rein and with a rather high head carriage; with the neck possibly helping stabilise the rider in the absence of a saddle. He emphasises the beauty of a horse that is spirited yet obedient and discusses ways in which the rider can achieve the desired arched neck. He writes, “ If you desire to handle a good war-horse so as to make his action the more magnificent and striking, you must refrain from pulling at his mouth with the bit as well as from spurring and whipping him…but if you teach your horse to go with a light hand on the bit and get him to hold his head well up and arch his neck you will be making him do just what the animal himself glories and delights in.”
Although “On Horsemanship” is often referred to as a dressage book it was written before horse training became a leisure time activity. Nevertheless the book serves to remind us that the sport of dressage evolved out of the training of horses for war, even though Xenophon would hardly recognise in today’s dressage tests the movements that he trained his own horses to perform. Xenophon valued lightness of the aids and fair treatment of the horse above all else. He writes, “for what the horse does under compulsion…is done without understanding; and there is no beauty in it either, any more than if one should spur and whip a dancer.”
It is interesting just how much of Xenophon’s advice is relevant to modern riders. He writes that a man should sit on a horse, not as if seated on a chair but as if standing upright with legs apart. He stresses the importance of progressive suppling exercises including voltes and at all he times counsels riders to encourage the horse with tact and gentleness. He understood very clearly the need for breaks within a training session; stating that, “It is the best of lessons if the horse gets a season of repose whenever he has behaved to his rider’s satisfaction.”
It is also interesting to note how clearly Xenophon understands the principles of psychology even though, as a discipline, it was developed over 2000 years after his time. He clearly demonstrates the principle of negative reinforcement (pressure / release) and the value of the release of the aid when he writes, “The horse’s mouth is not to be pulled back too harshly so as to make him toss his head aside, nor yet so gently that he will not feel the pressure. But the instant he raises his neck in answer to the pull, give him the bit at once; and so throughout, as we never cease repeating, at every response to your wishes, whenever and wherever the animal performs his service well, reward and humour him.”
He also demonstrates the principle of classical conditioning (during which a previously meaningless cue becomes associated with a learnt response or reflex) when he describes how certain noises are used to either soothe or rouse the horse but that these noises are a function of the horse’s training and have no natural effect on their own. He writes, “Again it should be known that the conventional “chirrup” to quiet and “cluck” to rouse a horse are a sort of precept of the training school; and supposing any one from the beginning chose to soft soothing actions with the “cluck” sound and harsh rousing actions with the “chirrup” the horse could be taught to rouse himself at the “chirrup” and to calm himself at the “cluck”.
When reading “On Horsemanship” it is sometimes necessary to remind yourself that it was written nearly 2500 years ago because some of the instructions in the book could easily have come straight from a modern pony-club manual. As an example, this is how Xenophon recommends putting the bit into the horse’s mouth. “In order to insert the bit correctly the groom should, in the first place, approach on the near side of the horse…raise the headstall in his right hand and with his left present the bit…if he refuses to open his mouth the groom must hold the bit against the teeth and at the same time insert the thumb of his left hand inside the horse’s jaws. Most horses will open their mouths to that operation.”
However, Xenophon’s most important piece of advice for riders, and what he refers to as the golden rule, is that no one should attempt to train the horse when they are angry. He points out that anger is without reason and it will drive a person to do things that they will regret when they have calmed down.
“On Horsemanship” reminds us that as modern riders we inherit nearly 25 centuries of tradition and technique. We can marvel at the understanding and compassion of a man who lived as a mercenary but who still cared deeply for the physical and mental well-being of his horses. If it reminds us of the transience of our own existence it also serves to make us ask what will remain of this era in 2500 years time. And finally it reminds us that no matter how much our world has changed and will change in the future, horses are a constant; we must be ethical custodians of the horse for we hold its future in trust for those generations still to come.
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Float Loading
April/May 08
It’s easy to spot the difficult floater in
the car park at the local horse show. The
car and float are surrounded by a bevy
of onlookers all armed to the teeth with
lunge ropes, carrots, new age halters and
sage advice, while a mushroom cloud of
dust hangs ominously overhead. Meanwhile
the star of the show stands firmly, if
somewhat sweatily planted to terra firma.
Although the distance the horse is required
to walk from the base of the ramp to the
front of the float may only be 3 or 4 metres
in total it may as well be the distance from
Perth to Brisbane as no amount of cajoling,
bribery or threats will induce those precious
forward steps.
Sometimes it seems as if horses refuse to
load onto the float because of a perverse
sense of humour. The email they would send
to their friends is not hard to imagine. Cost
of float: $10,000. Cost of four wheel drive
to tow it: $60,000. Cost of riding club
membership, including uniforms and
matching saddle blanket: $400. Watching
the whole family run around for two hours
while I stand on the ramp: Priceless!
But in reality, the horse that refuses to load
is simply demonstrating a gap in his basic
training. Repairing these gaps can be
reasonably straight forward as long as there
is recognition of the fact that to be effective
training must be systematic, repeatable and
progressive. Good training takes time and
sometimes a great deal of time. Miracle
cures and five minute solutions rarely last.
Training a horse is a little bit like growing a
garden; the more it is tended over the years,
the better it will be and the more it will
withstand hardships. In horse training, as
in life, the six P’s are of the utmost
importance… Proper Preparation Prevents
P**s Poor Performance.
Before attempting float training or
retraining, ensure the horse’s basic
groundwork responses are really reliable
(see the previous articles -Template for
Good Behaviour - Vol 29 No 4; Ground
Work Basics - Vol 29 No 3; Horses Behaving
Badly - Vol 29 No 2. Horses that fail to load
consistently are doing nothing more than
advertising the fact that their training has
been inadequate at some stage. Floating is
just leading and horses that lead perfectly
will lead on and off the float.
Horses that fail to load
consistently are doing
nothing more than
advertising the fact that
their training has been
inadequate at some stage.
Floating is
just leading
and once
horses have
been taught
to lead
properly they
will lead on
and off the
float.
April/May 08 - Page 38
Although it is often possible to rustle up a posse of beefy helpers
to wrestle the reluctant horse onto the float it is best not to rely on
this method, as there are few volunteers at 4am when emergency
trips to the vet are necessary or when bushfires threaten the
paddocks. The float training method in this article is for a single
handler, so politely ask all onlookers to stay well away.
SAFETY FIRST
As with all horse training, the safety of the handler and the horse
must be the highest priority at all times, so ensure there are no
sharp edges or rusty corners on the float that could cause injury
and that the ramp is covered in a non-slip surface. During training,
park the float on a level surface (attached to the tow ball of your
car!) In an area free from hazards and safely fenced. Close all
gates as Murphy’s Law dictates that the day this is not done will
be the day the geriatric 9hh lead-line pony has a sudden ‘wild
stallion’ moment and gallops off down the street.
Although over-reach and brushing boots can prevent injury during
training and floating, be wary of over-large float boots that may
slip and impede the horse’s natural gaits. Remove all rugs so the
aids can be easily given and clearly felt by the horse. Continue to
do this before every float trip until the horse is totally reliable, or
If your float is more like a
pumpkin than a carriage fit for
a princess the time to repair it
is before you start training.
The floating trainee can be fitted with brushing and over-reach boots for leg
protection and outfitted in a bridle, anti-rearing bit or head collar for the training
session.
The initial float training can be done in a bridle, anti-rearing bit
or head-collar, depending on the horse’s basic training and
temperament. However, once the horse is consistently loading it
is preferable to use a simple head-collar as bits - especially anti-
rearing bits - can catch on almost any projection with disastrous
consequences. If a bit is required then be even more vigilant about
float safety and swap the bridle for a standard head-collar once
the horse is safely enclosed in the float.
CHECK GROUNDWORK RESPONSES
The first stage - and for some horses this may take several sessions
- is to ensure the groundwork responses that the horse gives in
close proximity to the float are as light and reliable as those given
when the float is no where in sight. Forward, stop and park are
the most important responses in this instance but continue with
the training until perfect control of all four legs is consistently
achieved.
Dressage riders obsess over rhythm but it is an aspect of ground-
work training that is often neglected. Horses breathe in time to
the rhythm of their legs, therefore a quick rhythm is intrinsically
related to fear in the horse so don’t allow any quickening steps to
creep in unless they have been asked for with an aid. Ensure the
horse does not alter his rhythm when moving away from the float
in particular, as quickening steps away from something only serve
to reinforce, and therefore make stronger, fear responses.
It’s useful to break down training tasks into their simplest
component parts as this makes floating seem like a very simple
task. Float loading requires the horse to walk forwards and
backwards on command, in a given rhythm and to be able to ‘park’
(see training details in Ground Work Basics - Vol 29 No 3).
At every stage of training, make haste slowly. The training process
will take as long as it takes and rushing very rarely achieves
anything other than frustration and delay. The six main responses
(forward, stop, turn shoulders right and left, yield hind quarters
right and left) used in this training session will become a blueprint
for every single interaction between horse and handler, so make
sure they are reliable. It’s worthwhile mentioning here that there
can be a couple of aids (sometimes even more) for every behaviour
but only ever one behaviour for every aid. For example, forward
steps on the ground can be asked for by applying forward pressure
on the head-collar (or bridle) and also by tapping either the left or
right shoulder (i.e. one behaviour, three different aids) but never
make tapping the left shoulder sometimes mean come forward
and sometimes mean move sideways. This is far too confusing
Above: Check the horse’s responses to aids are light and reliable while in
close proximinity to the float.
The rules must stay the
same all the time.
Float training involves only three or four
steps from the base of the ramp into the float
so, with that in mind, the horse can be asked
to step onto the ramp by applying pressure
on the head-collar in a forwards direction.
If there is no response the groundwork
encouragement techniques can be applied
– tapping the horse’s shoulder with the whip,
increasing in strength until he complies.
Sometimes the tapping may have to be quite
strong. The most important aspect of this
technique is that the tapping stops the instant
the horse’s legs move forwards. If the horse
runs backwards the tapping would continue,
increasing in strength, until it moves forwards
and then the tapping ceases immediately. The
rapidity of the taps should be at least two taps
per second and this should not stop until the
horse moves forwards.
WALKING UP
The float divider can be secured to one side
so it creates a wider partition for the first
stage of loading, and the breeching doors
checked to ensure they will not swing shut
in the middle of the session. As this stage
of training usually doesn’t involve closing
these doors they could even be removed
altogether. At any stage, if a horse reacts to
the training by rearing. becoming dangerous
in any way or the handler does not feel
confident, then it is advisable to seek help
from a professional trainer. The safety of
both horse and handler are the first priority
in every situation.
The horse may possibly stop after taking the
first step onto the float ramp. This is fine.
Don’t rush the next stage; when he is calm
ask for another forward step. Taking this
slowly allows the horse’s eyes time to adjust
to the darker environment of the float.
Resistance may occur when the second step
forward is asked for and the horse may run
backwards out of the float. The handler
should be prepared to continue the tapping
while he is running backwards but ceasing
the instant the horse moves in a forwards
direction again.
The first step onto the ramp will probably
need to start all over again after a resistant
episode, but that’s OK. Remember, a
journey of 1000 miles begins with a single
step! Continue in this way until the horse
comes forward when asked for the second
step.
When the horse does step right into the float
the handler should not attempt to duck under
the chest bar as the doors will not be closed
at this stage so there is no need to get out of
the way. Also, all the training so far has
involved the handler being next to the horse
and quite often the process of his handler
disappearing under the bar can confuse him.
Now is the time to offer a reward - a rub or
carrot - and the security of the handler
standing beside him.
Backing out is the next step. Once the horse
has stood a little while (maybe a minute or
two) in the float ask him to back out. If he
begins to run out, apply pressure on the
head-collar and use the tapping technique
until he stops. It’s very hard to prevent
rushing off once its begun, so go back into
the ground-work and make the forward
response clearer if he shows any inclination
towards this behaviour.
When a horse rushes off the float or refuses
to step forward it’s really important to keep
his head facing the float. Don’t let him
remove the float from his view because this
is very reinforcing as effectively his
previous behaviour has made the float “go
away” and therefore has worked. Don’t turn
him away in order to straighten the approach
because it’s not necessary, he can step on
from the side of the ramp if asked.
It’s vital that both horse and handler master
each stage before moving onto the next one.
The June July issue will cover the next training
stage of training, one which requires the horse
to be in a head collar and the use of a two m
rope as he learns to stand so the breeching
doors can be closed by the handler.
Keep the horse’s head facing the float at all times, if
he rushes backwards then ask him to load from the
side of the ramp instead of turning for a straight
approach.
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Horses Behaving Badly
The Human Influence
Every horse has the potential for undesirable
behaviours but why some seemingly sail
through life with a halo firmly in place and
why others appear to practice wicked deeds
intent upon grievous bodily harm to their
riders or handlers is a question that has
plagued horse trainers for thousands of
years. Recent advances in our understanding
of equines have added a new dimension to
the issue of them ‘behaving badly’ and it is
now absolutely clear that inappropriate
behaviour is not just bad for the trainer, but
also bad for the horse. Science, therefore,
has brought objectivity to a problem that
dwells at the heart of our long association
with the horse and it has focused on the
common denominator that exists whenever
a horse behaves incorrectly - the human.
Horses are trained using negative
reinforcement - that is, a pressure of the
rider’s hands or legs that reinforces, by its
removal, the correct behaviour. It is by
using negative reinforcement that riders are
able to control their horses’ speed and
direction with light signals - this being
called stimulus control.
The path to stimulus control, however, can
all too easily become a slippery slope
leading to inappropriate behaviours of all
kinds, such as bucking, rearing, bolting,
pulling back and biting. These behaviours
are not only dangerous for riders and
handlers, but they have a significant impact
on the horse’s welfare and greatly
contribute to the high rate of ‘wastage’ in
the industry.
Studying Stop and Go
Australian scientist and horse trainer, Dr
Andrew McLean, has been examining the
relationship between problem behaviours
and the incorrect use of negative
reinforcement for some time. He reasoned
that if incorrectly applied negative
reinforcement was responsible for problem
The international debate on
hyperflexion of the neck in dressage
horses has generated a great deal of
recent media attention. In an era in which
public concern for the welfare of sporting
and companion animals has never been
greater, this issue has stirred the emotions
of many and drawn the media spotlight
unerringly upon the sport of dressage.
There is however, much valuable research
on the welfare of equines that goes largely
unnoticed.
Targeting Training
Since the last decades of the twentieth
century, the volume and quality of the
research into horses has been steadily
rising, with many researchers all around the
world working on lower profile, but no less
important, welfare issues. Several
researchers are targeting training practices
and their impact on welfare, with areas such
as rein contact and self carriage being
examined, as well as ‘problem’ or
inappropriate behaviours such as rearing
and bucking.
Although this research covers wide and
diverse horse-related topics, areas of
consensus are certainly emerging. It is now
generally believed, for example, that
inappropriate training practices can have a
significant, negative impact on equine
welfare. This is particularly prevalent when
a single aid is used to produce more than
one behaviour (such as, when pulling on the
reins is used to make a horse ‘rounder’) and
careful attention is not paid to the release
of the pressures used in negative
reinforcement (for example, when ‘self
carriage’ is not maintained).
Trends could be seen in
both the in-hand and
under-saddle behaviours,
which indicates that
under-saddle problems can be
detected through an in-hand
diagnosis and vice versa.
Dr McLean reasoned that if incorrectly applied negative reinforcement is associated with problem behaviours then it should follow that horses showing problem
behaviours should also show some dysfunctions in the behaviours
that were trained by negative reinforcement. In other words, their
existing, basic training should exhibit problems or flaws.
In 2004, Dr McLean conducted a study designed to determine if
certain behaviour problems can be associated with the quality of
a horse’s learned behaviours of stop and go; more correctly known
as deceleration and acceleration. During this investigation, he
analysed the ‘stop and go’ responses of a large sample of horses
that exhibited problem behaviours, either in hand or under saddle.
The horses included all breeds, all age groups and were
predominantly geldings and mares.
If the horse was asked to walk,
it remained walking until
signalled otherwise.
Below:
If halted, it should remain
immobile without constant
pressure on the reins.
As it had been reasoned that ‘go’ and ‘stop’ were the most
commonly used responses in a horse’s repertoire, with the largest
impact on stimulus control, testing of these formed the basis of
the study. A correct response was defined as the horse always
responding correctly, initiating the response immediately from a light
(not more than 200g pressure) signal and maintaining the response -
that is, if the horse was asked to walk, it remained walking until
signalled otherwise. If halted, it should remain immobile.
The horses were subsequently assessed both in hand and under
saddle. In-hand testing was carried out in a standard webbing
headcollar with a lead rope attached as normal and with the
handler facing the horse. The ‘go’ was tested by applying pressure
on the lead rope in a forwards (from the horse) direction, then the
horse’s response was analysed according to three criteria - that is,
whether it was ‘sometimes delayed’, ‘delayed and heavy’ or not
maintained. Each horse’s ‘stop’ was also tested and analysed using
the same three criteria, then the whole process repeated five times.
Under saddle, the horses were tested for ‘go’ by applying a light
leg aid at halt until the horse walked, while the ‘stop’ was assessed
by applying light rein pressure. Both were analysed using the
same three criteria as the in-hand testing. In both the under saddle
and in-hand trials, the handlers were very careful not to offer any
other cues - such as voice or body movement - that could have
acted as triggers for the ‘stop and go’ behaviours.
The behaviours analysed were: bolting, rearing, bucking, shying,
tension/jogging, no immobility (not standing still), head tossing,
kicking out, biting, difficult to shoe, pulling back while tethered,
refusal to load onto the float and rushing out of the float. Some
behaviours were common to both in-hand and under-saddle, while
others were specific to in-hand.
Results
The results of Dr McLean’s study showed that the relationship
between incorrectly established ‘go’ and ‘stop’ responses was
significant. For example, bolting horses
showed far greater problems in their ‘stop’
response (71% of those tested showing
significant dysfunctions), while rearing
horses showed far greater problems in the
‘go’ response (70.4% of those tested
showing significant dysfunctions). Horses
that bucked showed dysfunctions in both
‘go’ and ‘stop’, while shying horses showed
greater errors in ‘go’ than in the ‘stop’.
Head-tossing horses showed more ‘stop’
than ‘go’ problems, while horses that
kicked out in hand showed the reverse.
Horses that were difficult to load onto a
float showed more ‘go’ problems than those
that bit, which showed slightly lower scores
overall but with more problems in the ‘stop’
response than in the ‘go’.
Of the ways in which the responses could
be impaired, delayed and heavy responses
were associated with the most problem
behaviours. In correct training, responses
should be made consistently, immediately,
from light signals and maintained until
otherwise cued. In equestrian literature, this
is known as self carriage. When a response
fulfils all of these criteria, it is said to be
under stimulus control while, conversely,
a loss of stimulus control is associated with
problem behaviours.
In his conclusions, Dr McLean suggested
that tests such as those used in his study
can be predictive of behavioural problems.
He emphasised that, of all the ways a
response can be dysfunctional, ‘delayed and
heavy’ is associated with far more problem
behaviours. Also of note was his proposal
that ‘stop’ responses are related to more
problem behaviours than ‘go’ responses and
that, as there is a direct correlation between
in-hand and under-saddle responses, any
attempt to rectify problem behaviours (or
maintain good ones!) should include both
mounted and unmounted work.
Perhaps most significantly, Dr McLean
also recommended that any behaviour
modification should begin with a simple
assessment of the horse’s ‘go’ and ‘stop’
responses, as this will provide the trainer
with a great deal of information about the
direction that the training should take.
In the study, there were no problem
behaviours that showed no amount of
dysfunction - that is, every problem
behaviour tested was associated with
problems in either the ‘go’ or ‘stop’
response and, in some cases, with both.
Also, clear and consistent trends could be
seen in both the in-hand and under-saddle
behaviours, which indicates that under-
saddle problems can be detected through
an in-hand diagnosis and vice versa. The
implications of this finding for people who
ride unfamiliar horses is significant.
Although the results showed impairments
in the ‘stop’ and go responses to be
associated with behaviour problems, rather
than the cause of them, a simple in-hand
assessment of a horse’s behaviour can give
a rider an indication of what problems they
are more likely to encounter under saddle.
It also demonstrates the importance of
maintaining a horse’s training both in-hand
and under-saddle. In-hand and under-saddle
behaviours are closely linked, therefore it
is logical to assume that horses that
manifest problems in one area will
inevitably show them in the other.
Of all the ways a response
can be dysfunctional,
‘delayed and heavy’ is
associated with far more
problem behaviours.
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